Blurry christmas candids makes baby jesus photographer cry.
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Posted: Nov 17 2009 05:00:44 pm
by daoist
WrenchHead wrote:Blurry christmas candids makes baby jesus photographer cry.
Well if you have anything super memorable to photograph you can always set your clock back
Posted: Nov 17 2009 05:01:56 pm
by daoist
I've been dicking around with development. Also i dug around the VM image and found out that the .apk files are stored in /system/app/ so now I have the development apps on my Droid like the gestures builder and the package explorer and all that fun stuff.
Posted: Nov 17 2009 05:23:43 pm
by daoist
Hey I found a com.motorola.hiddenmenu package. Imma see what's in it.
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Posted: Nov 17 2009 05:24:33 pm
by Gretyl
daoist wrote:Imma see what's in it.
C# had the best package naming of all time!
Re: Droid related stuff (problems/solutions tips, tricks, apps)
Posted: Nov 17 2009 06:06:22 pm
by Lars
Dragon wrote:looks like it's a timestamp bug.
catchmyjetta from HowardForums wrote:There's a rounding-error bug in the camera driver's autofocus routine (which uses a timestamp) that causes autofocus to behave poorly on a 24.5-day cycle. That is, it'll work for 24.5 days, then have poor performance for 24.5 days, then work again.
The 17th is the start of a new "works correctly" cycle, so the devices will be fine for a while. A permanent fix is in the works.
Wait, what? How does a timestamp factor into camera focus in any conceivable way?
Google dude says the AF routine relies on a timestamp for some reason.
I wish I was a business analyst for this design team so I could explain the importance of having manual control of ISO, Shutter speed, Aperture, and focus. Four methods which I find no mention of in the API
In theory we could have a kickass camera. I'm also thinking about the ability to digitally cut the visible light data and turn it into an infrared camera for creative purposes. Obviously the hardware allows this if you're able to talk to it and control these things. I found a tutorial on setting up the SDK in Eclipse. I am going to take the plunge and kludge my way through a Hello World program sometime soon. With this crap ass economy, maybe I can supplement my income with motion sensing fart apps or whatever.
Re: Droid related stuff (problems/solutions tips, tricks, apps)
Posted: Nov 17 2009 08:03:17 pm
by daoist
Lars wrote:
Dragon wrote:looks like it's a timestamp bug.
catchmyjetta from HowardForums wrote:There's a rounding-error bug in the camera driver's autofocus routine (which uses a timestamp) that causes autofocus to behave poorly on a 24.5-day cycle. That is, it'll work for 24.5 days, then have poor performance for 24.5 days, then work again.
The 17th is the start of a new "works correctly" cycle, so the devices will be fine for a while. A permanent fix is in the works.
Wait, what? How does a timestamp factor into camera focus in any conceivable way?
It's in a hardware driver that's probably proprietary so we may never know. My guess is it uses a random number generated from a time-generated seed in some manner.
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Posted: Nov 17 2009 08:04:12 pm
by daoist
WrenchHead wrote:Google dude says the AF routine relies on a timestamp for some reason.
I wish I was a business analyst for this design team so I could explain the importance of having manual control of ISO, Shutter speed, Aperture, and focus. Four methods which I find no mention of in the API
In theory we could have a kickass camera. I'm also thinking about the ability to digitally cut the visible light data and turn it into an infrared camera for creative purposes. Obviously the hardware allows this if you're able to talk to it and control these things. I found a tutorial on setting up the SDK in Eclipse. I am going to take the plunge and kludge my way through a Hello World program sometime soon. With this crap ass economy, maybe I can supplement my income with motion sensing fart apps or whatever.
after you do the hello world, do the notepad tutorials. it walks you through it all nicely.
Posted: Nov 18 2009 02:34:55 pm
by WrenchHead
Is the android developer site extremely slow for the rest of you? For two days now I've been trying to get the SDK and the ADT plugin for Eclipse, but no dice...
Posted: Nov 18 2009 02:40:53 pm
by daoist
Yeah recently it's been slow.
Posted: Nov 18 2009 04:56:24 pm
by WrenchHead
SDK and Eclipse aquired... Now to figure out wtf I'm doing. I haven't attempted anything this complex since moving from diapers to the big boy potty.
Posted: Nov 19 2009 11:12:00 am
by WrenchHead
I got all artfag with my phone camera this morning in brookside park
thanks to the historically misspelled "driod" from this thread, whenever i see "droid" written in print i read it as "driod."
Posted: Nov 19 2009 11:25:36 am
by WrenchHead
Like Brian and brain.
Posted: Nov 19 2009 11:28:20 am
by daoist
fedex tried to deliver my dock yesterday. I signed the "leave it here" dealy so I'll have it to play with tonight
Posted: Nov 19 2009 11:41:35 am
by WrenchHead
I had to drive to fedex and get mine that night. It was that important.
The thing I like about the dock is the phone just slides right onto the charging post, compared to it snagging into the car charger or the one they give you from the factory.
I still need to dremel my car mount so I can get my driving camera set up.
Posted: Nov 19 2009 01:18:39 pm
by daoist
Same here. I think the difficult part will be getting the windshield suction mount out of the way.
Posted: Nov 19 2009 05:35:50 pm
by WrenchHead
Emulator fail:
I stumbled through my first text entry + button application only to have the emulator get all Chinese on me....
For some reason the emulator keeps pulling up the chinese, but I figured out how to get the text to display in the popup when you click the button:
My first application is a resounding success. Now I need to actually brush up on some legitimate java skills and make myself familiar with android and the davlik stuff.
Posted: Nov 19 2009 06:17:51 pm
by daoist
Yeah the first time you fire up the emu it's in chinese for some reason. If you go into the location dealie you can put it back to engrish.
Posted: Nov 19 2009 06:30:18 pm
by WrenchHead
My mistake.. it was Japanese assistance. Yeah, I went into the settings in the emulator and turned that off. Awesome.. We'll see if I can figure this out further.
Are you developing any applications, yourself?
Posted: Nov 19 2009 07:46:56 pm
by daoist
I'm working on a shopping list (easy) and then a weight management dealie (harder)
Posted: Nov 19 2009 10:54:53 pm
by caddymac
Girlfriend just picked a Moto Droid up. She's currently struggling with the making and receiving of calls with it. The store gave her 15 days to return it. If she doesn't stop swearing soon, I'd say there's a pretty good chance that the return policy will be taken advantage of.
I mean I'm happy, but he beat me to it. The iPhone version of that app costs 5.00. This is free. I might still take it on as a project anyway because I need practice.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 11:45:40 am
by WrenchHead
anyone else having trouble using the droid... as a phone?
I'll go to make a call and then the screen will go back to the home desktop after I poke the send button.
Then about two minutes later the droid will exit whatever app I'm then in and FINALLY make the call.
it's as if the stupid phone puts 8th level priority on the actual phone software or it doesn't get loaded at boot or something.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 11:47:57 am
by daoist
Not happening to me.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 11:50:45 am
by WrenchHead
I'm sure it's due to installing some sort of half defective application. Do you have any apps that let you see (and kill) every individual service that's running?
Posted: Nov 20 2009 01:07:40 pm
by daoist
home->settings->applications->running services should do ya.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 01:41:55 pm
by WrenchHead
It doesn't show them all. I got some sort of task manager that kills background shit off (and allows things to automatically restart as needed) and it's kicking ass.
It's called TaskPanel. You can set it to autokill shit like Verizon Visual Voicemail.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 02:00:34 pm
by daoist
If something's registered a bad intent filter, stopping the process won't help you, since android will fire it back up as soon as you fire off a dialer intent.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 02:43:02 pm
by Halt! Hammerzeit.
Ok so what are all the apps you guys are using?
I have Facebook, Twidroid, Aldiko e-book reader, Google Places Directory/Finance/etc, and a bunch of widgets that lets me turn on/off with one touch wifi/bluetooth/et al on the home screen.
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Posted: Nov 20 2009 02:44:23 pm
by Halt! Hammerzeit.
WrenchHead wrote:It doesn't show them all. I got some sort of task manager that kills background shit off (and allows things to automatically restart as needed) and it's kicking ass.
It's called TaskPanel. You can set it to autokill shit like Verizon Visual Voicemail.
This app is excellent. Beats going to the terminal and ps/grep/kill!
Posted: Nov 20 2009 03:03:12 pm
by WrenchHead
I've put on and removed a LOT of apps so far. Stuff that remains:
-Apps Organizer (not using.. i have stuff in folders on the desktop instead) -Barrage Lite (a tank artillary game for old times' sake) -Battery Widget (like this a lot to see % of battery and turn off/on wifi, gps, etc..) -Bubble (level) -cgSpeedo (digital speedometer for the car) -Comeks (photo editor) -ConnectBot (ssh terminal) -craigsphone (craigslist app) -craigslistnotifica (craigslist search notifier) -eBuddy (runs all IM programs like YIM, AIM, Facebook chat, Myspace chat, ICQ, MSN) -fxCamera (fake Lomo, Polaroid photos) -Google Sky Map (may teach me about astromomy) -Google Voice (visual/audible voice mail) -Hangman (lame but kills time) -Hearts (kills time) -Labrynth (let other people play this) -Listen (decent app that fishes for podcasts and other stuff to listen to based on your interests) -Metal Detector (works, but useless?) -Movie Finder -My Tracks (GPS path making like Jeffy in Family Circus) -Note Everything (notepad, voice recorder, etc..) -OI File Manager (explorer for files on phone and SD card) -Pandora -Photo Burst (not sure what it does) -PicSay (only loaded it to show people multitouch on the droid) -PicUp (sends photos to flickr, facebook, twitter) -Pkt Auctions eBay (ebay app) -Places Directory -TaskPanel (makes my phone run better now) -Ringdroid (crops mp3 songs into ringtones) -Speed Test (test bandwidth speed) -Talk (google talk) -The Massive Development Chart (film developing info) -The Weather Channel -TTS Service (text to speed plugin) -Twidroid Pro (only thing I've paid for) -Ultimate Stopwatch -UltraSound (makes high pitched sounds to annoy people) -WikiMobile (wikipedia app)
I deleted about 50 other apps that I thought were possibly fucking with the OS.
Re: Droid related stuff (problems/solutions tips, tricks, apps)
Posted: Nov 20 2009 03:20:04 pm
by daoist
andftp - ftp/sftp client androidvnc - vnc client apps installer - installs .apk files downloaded locally barcode scanner - simple scanner app, also does QR codes bluetooth file transfer - I have never gotten this to work, but I think the problem is on my desktop bubble - level connectbot - the best ssh client i've ever seen for a mobile device, ever dev tools - copied from dev emulator dockrunner - manually put your phone into bedside dock mode droidrecord - record notes gestures builder - copied from dev emulator google voice - awesome hello, android - yes I installed my hello world, I'm proud of it. listen - might actually use it. dunno, like my ipod shuffle. my verizon - just a link to their website. eh oi shopping list - it's ok, but mine will be better picsay - I may even pay for the full version. I CAN MAKE LOLCATS ON MY PHONE picup - upload pics to multiple sites at once qik- broadcast video live (go to BGR and find the article for a link to email the devs to get the Droid version!) shazam - identify songs by sound shopsavvy - read barcodes and comparison shop automatically spare parts - copied from dev emulator sysinfo - some extra dev info. dunno how useful twidroid pro - great twitter client. worth the money ultrachron lite - stopwatch for the gym where - gimmicky "find stuff near me" thing. Might uninstall; google maps does this. power control - a 1x4 widget that can toggle all the radios, sync, and brightness.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 03:25:19 pm
by WrenchHead
what's funny is that I got the phone hoping my outdoors, running around life would get way more productive.. It turns out that I just spend all my time sitting at home pissing around with my phone now instead of going out to eat or to the movies.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 03:32:52 pm
by Gretyl
that's mobile tech for you... the more compelling it is, the less you move!
Posted: Nov 20 2009 03:33:52 pm
by WrenchHead
And the more you feel obligated to fiddle with it regardless of what you're doing. I'd never texted while peeing until last week.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 04:12:56 pm
by Halt! Hammerzeit.
I like Google Places Directory in new areas/cities. Especially the compass for each restaurant/gas station/etc.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 04:18:52 pm
by WrenchHead
Places had more Ames info than the Where app, so I dumped Where.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 04:21:15 pm
by daoist
Still looking for a free RDP client.
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Posted: Nov 20 2009 06:47:18 pm
by Halt! Hammerzeit.
WrenchHead wrote:I got all artfag with my phone camera this morning in brookside park
Did you post-process these? The contrast & saturation on my phone is nowhere near that.
Posted: Nov 20 2009 08:09:07 pm
by WrenchHead
I'm using the fxCamera app which does those automatically.
Re: Droid related stuff (problems/solutions tips, tricks, apps)
Posted: Nov 21 2009 12:23:35 am
by Halt! Hammerzeit.
Yes, I understand that, but mine come out nowhere near as contrasty & saturated. I'm using the G1 though.
Posted: Nov 21 2009 12:33:08 am
by WrenchHead
The photos were coming out dark because the sky was messing with the metering on the camera. I'm not that impressed with my Droid's camera. fxCamera is the only thing I used though.
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Posted: Nov 21 2009 10:06:26 am
by Lars
daoist wrote:Still looking for a free RDP client.
I've never been able to find one for BB either.
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Posted: Nov 21 2009 10:46:28 am
by caddymac
Lars wrote:
daoist wrote:Still looking for a free RDP client.
I've never been able to find one for BB either.
I'd like one for both the BB and Droid, please!
I did some searching at work yesterday, apparently there is Tmobiles??? for the BB.
Posted: Nov 21 2009 03:54:20 pm
by daoist
I just got a $35 credit on my account today. Wrench, you get that too?
Posted: Nov 21 2009 11:37:53 pm
by WrenchHead
No. Did you pay first? I still haven't paid them.
Posted: Nov 22 2009 12:05:57 am
by daoist
Nope. Just got a txt and an email that I was getting a $35 credit.
Posted: Nov 22 2009 12:44:17 am
by WrenchHead
Did they mention why? I bought my phone at best buy in Ames. I've been to the Verizon store twice to buy the dock and the other time to apply for my 18% discount through work. Maybe they decided I'm too needy.
Posted: Nov 22 2009 10:56:52 am
by WrenchHead
I drilled out the car dock yesterday. All you need is a 1/4" drill bit. It took me 30 seconds. The camera has major jello effect. When my car is idling (shaking/vibrating) things get very 1966 San Francisco:
Raw video footage right outta the phone:
Posted: Nov 22 2009 01:32:08 pm
by Gretyl
Man, now I'm jonesing for an 80's soundtrack on top of footage of WH killing a hooker in front of his car.
Posted: Nov 22 2009 01:38:31 pm
by MarcusAurelius
what's with the audio? sounds like you're driving a convertible.
Posted: Nov 22 2009 02:57:43 pm
by WrenchHead
I was driving a roadster that has no top.
Posted: Nov 22 2009 04:33:17 pm
by MarcusAurelius
in the rain?
Posted: Nov 22 2009 04:46:06 pm
by WrenchHead
It was just really foggy.
Posted: Nov 27 2009 03:54:24 pm
by larfnarf
Ohh.. I guess I need to log into strangetalk more then once every few months.
I like my droid.. though my biggest peeve so far has been the batter cover.. which I have fixed by getting a skin for the whole thing.
has anybody found a set up that they like to load videos to their droid? I found that Vidora... which makes video converters for the iphone/ipod touch.. also now has a flavor for the droid.. but I haven't tried it yet.
Is there a case or a cover for the phone that I can use with the car mount? Apparently the car mount needs the phone to be naked for it to mount - which sounds like a bummer.
Posted: Nov 30 2009 03:38:03 pm
by daoist
I bet invisible shield will work. I plan on picking it up for mine.
Posted: Nov 30 2009 04:39:07 pm
by Gretyl
Invisible shield is a scam, to use Santa's parlance.
Posted: Nov 17 2009 04:59:28 pm
