Our foreign policy is fucktarded

[MarcusAurelius]

Scramjets are big due to drones.

wat

[MarcusAurelius]

Diplomatic channels with Russia would be on high alert, but with an open line of communication, I'm sure they would be assured our target is not Moscow when the Chinese Navy is heading for the west coast. Hell, if anything we could ask the Russians to join us in nuking the Chinese Navy.

And China would ask Mexico if they'd put more salmonella in our spinach.

sounds like you agree we don't need a buildup on guam

[Santa]

Diplomatic channels with Russia would be on high alert, but with an open line of communication, I'm sure they would be assured our target is not Moscow when the Chinese Navy is heading for the west coast. Hell, if anything we could ask the Russians to join us in nuking the Chinese Navy.

And China would ask Mexico if they'd put more salmonella in our spinach.

sounds like you agree we don't need a buildup on guam

Well, what's really not being said is that move is happening due to us basically getting removed from Okinawa due to unpopular local sentiment.

In that case, Fuck Japan/Taiwan unless they want to foot the bill.

I'm cool with being world police if they pay us for it. Might as well export our strengths.

[MarcusAurelius]

so you agree with sherm. i know it's hard to say, but it would've saved us all some time.

[Santa]

That we don't need Guam for national defense? That's a no brainer. I still think it's a fucking retarded idea to rely on ICBMs for naval defense.

[MarcusAurelius]

variety is good. i'm not suggesting icbms be our sole means of defense, just that they are pretty goddam effective at obliterating a navy, and a helluva lot faster than anything else available.

[Santa]

I honestly do think Taiwan/Japan will need help defending themselves against China. I just don't think we should pay for it.

[Uncle Sherm]

Japan is only limited by their own pacifism. I don't care if Taiwan gets overrun.

[MarcusAurelius]

I honestly do think Taiwan/Japan will need help defending themselves against China. I just don't think we should pay for it.

of course they need help. georgia needed help defending itself from russia.

[Uncle Sherm]

Libya and Iraq needed help defending themselves from themselves.

[Jobu]

Well, what's really not being said is that move is happening due to us basically getting removed from Okinawa due to unpopular local sentiment.

In that case, Fuck Japan/Taiwan unless they want to foot the bill.

Funny enough, I think it was our marines fucking their kids that got us kicked out in the first place.

[THW]

jesus christ, all the armchair generals in here...this place is shaping up like a real life Dungeons and Dragons

[Gretyl]

I rolled a twenty, is that good?

[Uncle Sherm]

jesus christ, all the armchair generals in here...this place is shaping up like a real life Dungeons and Dragons

I was going more for Command and Conquer.

[MarcusAurelius]

cc1, or red alert?

[Uncle Sherm]

Red Alert 2, but in this scenario, we'd be on an island map with all the superweapons.

[Uncle Sherm]

As they are loading their tanks onto the amphibious transports, we chronosphere them to the middle of the ocean. Then lightning strike their Construction yard in a coordinated attack with a bombing run and nuke their navy. After that it becomes a cleanup operation with carriers, dreadnaughts, and a lot of harriers. No boots on the ground.

[MarcusAurelius]

enjoy wasting hours with the red alert 2 sound board.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/293898

[Gretyl]

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

[Talenos]

I cast magic missile!

[Santa]

Sherm still believes in Jesus. Pass it on.

[Uncle Sherm]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/30/us-oil-obama-iran-idUSBRE82S1FD20120330?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=71

Obama does his best Jimmy Carter impression.

[Dr. Faustus]

I never feel comfortable agreeing with Sherm, but the endless sprawl of US bases overseas is a serious problem. I don't think there is the political will, nor will there be, to do something about this absent some kind of catastrophe which forces us to reckon with it. The recently deceased Chalmers Johnson shared this opinion.

[Uncle Sherm]

Maybe during Obama's next term, right?

[Dr. Faustus]

Maybe during Obama's next term, right?

Man, I try to be civil and this is what I get? Please, don't try to turn this into being about Obama. This involves every presidential administration since WWII at the very least, Democrats and Republicans alike.

[Uncle Sherm]

The definition of insanity. 9/11 was a catastrophe and didn't decrease our overseas involvement. Why would you believe this will be different in the future?

[Dr. Faustus]

The definition of insanity. 9/11 was a catastrophe and didn't decrease our overseas involvement. Why would you believe this will be different in the future?

Where did I mention 9/11? Are you just making up responses on the fly to posts that don't exist? It's as if you're having a conversation with an imaginary friend.

[Uncle Sherm]

I don't think there is the political will, nor will there be, to do something about this absent some kind of catastrophe which forces us to reckon with it. The recently deceased Chalmers Johnson shared this opinion.

[Santa]

Maybe during Obama's next term, right?

Man, I try to be civil and this is what I get? Please, don't try to turn this into being about Obama. This involves every presidential administration since WWII at the very least, Democrats and Republicans alike.

Dr. Faustus cycle continues:

Step 1: Try to be civil, expecting a polite reaction.
Step 2: Cry when you don't get a expected reaction.
Step 3: Insult, Insult, Insult, Fuck you guys, I'm done trying.

At least RL starts with Step 3.

[MarcusAurelius]

fwiw, it's not all that "civil" when you open with an attack.

[Santa]

It wasn't really an attack. Just annoying smugness.

[Uncle Sherm]

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-s ... ali-2013-1

Forward.

[Uncle Sherm]

http://www.guardiannews.com/world/2013/ ... ist-threat

[MarcusAurelius]

no blood for oil!


err wait

[Santa]

We should put a venture capitalist in for Secretary of Defense.

At least get some return on this shit.

[Gretyl]

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-says-the-west-created-terrorist-problem-in-mali-2013-1

I dig the underemphasis on vetting these claims.

The toppling of Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi led to "perhaps the greatest proliferation of weapons of war from any modern conflict," Emergency Director of Human Rights Watch Peter Bouckaert told The Telegraph.

[Uncle Sherm]

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-says-the-west-created-terrorist-problem-in-mali-2013-1

I dig the underemphasis on vetting these claims.

The toppling of Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi led to "perhaps the greatest proliferation of weapons of war from any modern conflict," Emergency Director of Human Rights Watch Peter Bouckaert told The Telegraph.

They probably got their facts from the State Department.
http://www.state.gov/t/pm/rls/rm/183097.htm

[Santa]

I think it's pretty shitty that the government took away my second amendment right to own a portable surface to air missile.

How am I supposed to defend myself against the tyranny of an Apache helicopter?

[Santa]

Liberals can drop the F bomb all day long and Atheists can make fun of Jesus but I can't have what I need to adequately protect myself from a military invasion.

[Gretyl]

But really, how does this relate to Obama's inauguration? That would tie the whole thread together.

[Uncle Sherm]

Out with the old, in with the old.

[Santa]

But really, how does this relate to Obama's inauguration? That would tie the whole thread together.

Obama had a three way with Jesus and the black vote during that inauguration. Leave me out.